This is easily tested and repeatable, so try it yourself. The reason you cannot start a new character with HR active in your plugin list is a navmesh issue where almost any edit and finalization to the navmesh in some of the named Helgen Exterior cells breaks the cart ride at the beginning of the game. I found this thread and wanted to clear up some misunderstandings concerning my mod. Hey guys, this is Mike Hancho, author of Helgen Reborn.